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Jake Jorgovan

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Account-based podcasting: build relationships with buyers

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A B2B podcast can give your company a reason to spend time with the people it hopes to serve. You invite buyers and partners to discuss work they understand, publish a useful conversation, and have a relationship to build on afterward.

Account-based podcasting makes that guest selection deliberate. The show is built around a defined set of companies and the people whose decisions matter to your business. It still needs to be a show those people would want to join and others would want to hear.

For a marketing or sales leader considering the investment, the question is whether those conversations justify the work. Here is how I'd decide, shape the show and evaluate a pilot.

DisclosureJake Jorgovan founded Content Allies, which this essay links to.

Why I'd consider it as a relationship channel

I wrote in January 2017 about an audit of the clients I had closed over the preceding year. I could trace over 60% of those clients back to my Working Without Pants podcast in some form. Guests had become clients or referred clients. Interviews had also led to webinars, speaking opportunities and guest posts.

I had received business from listeners, too, but the relationships formed through interviews were more valuable to me. That experience is why I would include guest relationships in the business case from the beginning. The percentage was my own retrospective finding, not a conversion rate to put in your forecast.

When I wrote about taking new businesses to market in November 2023, I recommended ABM podcasting as a way to learn about customers while building relationships. That learning is useful even before a commercial opportunity appears: what buyers are trying to change, how they describe the problem, and which tradeoffs they consider important.

I'd consider a pilot when you can name the accounts you want to reach, explain why their people would make interesting guests, and assign someone to maintain those relationships. The potential value of an account should justify the time spent researching, interviewing and following up.

If you need sales-ready leads within a short deadline, I would fund a channel suited to that deadline. An accepted interview tells you someone wants to participate in a show. It does not establish a buying project, budget or purchase timetable.

Give buyers a show worth appearing on

An interview can offer the guest a public way to share their expertise and make their work visible. In a March 2021 episode on why to launch a B2B podcast, I described exposure to the show's audience and added credibility as reasons a guest might participate. The invitation has to make that value concrete: a relevant subject, a prepared host and a conversation the guest would be glad to share.

Start with the subject your customer wants to discuss. Check whether your proposed theme speaks to your customers or mainly to people who do the same work as you.

I made that mistake with the first version of my show, which interviewed fellow freelancers before I renamed it Working Without Pants. As I explained in a March 2021 episode on podcast strategy, those early interviews brought good networking and some referrals, but relatively little business. My advice was to move the theme into the customer's world. An agency serving e-commerce businesses, for example, could explore the decisions involved in growing an e-commerce company.

The exception is straightforward: if other agencies are your customers, a show for agency leaders may be the right choice. Choose guests by their relevance to your business and the conversation, without excluding someone simply because they share your profession.

As a hypothetical example, consider a company selling workforce-planning software to manufacturers. A show about its software features gives an operations leader little room to contribute. A show about staffing plants through changes in demand could explore a decision that leader has actually faced. An episode might examine how they balanced overtime, hiring and production commitments.

That premise also gives a listener a reason to stay. Each guest contributes a specific experience; the episodes add up to a useful body of work on a shared problem.

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The approach described in this article, shown as a visual guide.

The approach described in this article, shown as a visual guide.

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Show Premise Alignment Matrix Host Centric Premise: Software features; low appeal, gives guest no room Guest Centric Premise: Staffing plants through demand swings; high relevance Peer Trap: Interviews fellow freelancers; good networking, low sales Customer World: Explores buyer operational decisions; high business value

Build the guest list with sales and the host

I'd ask sales to contribute the target accounts and existing relationship context, then ask the host to assess the editorial fit. An account can be commercially attractive without having an appropriate guest available for this show.

The guest mix I described in 2017 included prospects, strategic partners and thought leaders. Here is how I'd apply that mix to an account-based program.

Guest typeReason to invite themCheck before outreach
Buyer at a target accountThey have experience with a decision the show exploresCan they discuss that experience publicly, and does sales already have a relationship with them?
Strategic partnerThey serve the same buyers through a complementary businessIs there a useful topic to explore together, beyond a mutual desire for referrals?
Industry expertTheir knowledge helps the audience understand a difficult issueDoes their expertise fit the show, even if they never become a customer?
Choosing guests for a useful conversation and a relevant relationship.

Start with people you know where that gives you a credible first conversation. Use those episodes to demonstrate the show you are asking future guests to join. Avoid promising a large audience before you have one.

For each invitation, record the proposed topic, why this person can contribute, their account relationship and who owns the follow-up. If the list fills with people who are easy to book but unrelated to the business you want to build, revisit the selection before increasing production.

Make the invitation honest, and keep the interview useful

The invitation should identify the company behind the show, its intended audience, the topic and the commitment you are asking for. Explain what will be published and what the guest will receive, such as a finished episode and clips they may choose to share.

A proposed invitation might read:

I'm inviting you to our company's podcast on manufacturing operations. Your experience planning plant staffing through changes in demand would make a useful conversation for operations leaders. Would you be open to discussing what you learned? I can send the proposed topics, recording details and publication plan before you decide.

The host's job is to explore the guest's experience. Ask about decisions, alternatives and lessons they can share publicly. Agree on sensitive subjects before recording, and make the review and approval process clear.

Follow through on the editorial commitment whether or not there is commercial interest. After publishing, send the episode and thank the guest. If a business need emerges, ask whether a separate conversation would be useful. Participation in the podcast should never depend on agreeing to that conversation.

Budget for the work around the recording

For a pilot, I'd use a straightforward interview format with careful preparation and reliable editing. Choose the cadence your team can sustain, including guest approvals and rescheduled recordings. A weekly calendar is optional; a dependable production process is essential.

Divide responsibility explicitly. The host prepares and conducts the interview. A producer coordinates guests, recordings, editing and publication. A named person on your team owns the relationship after the episode. That person may be the host, but the responsibility needs to survive a change of host.

An executive can host, or you can appoint a capable interviewer with subject knowledge. If someone outside your company hosts, ask the guest whether they would welcome an introduction to the person on your team responsible for the relationship. Outsourcing the conversation without that connection leaves an important part of the account-based plan unresolved.

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ABM Podcast Production & Account Workflow Account Targeting: Sales identifies accounts; host evaluates editorial fit Honest Outreach: Disclose sponsor company, audience, topics, and commitment Interview Prep: Agree on sensitive topics and review/approval workflow Relationship Owner: Named person owns relationship; asks for separate sales chat

For an in-house budget, include staff time across guest research, outreach, preparation, recording, approvals, production, distribution and follow-up. For an agency proposal, use the same list to identify what is included and what your team must still do. Compare the total cost over the pilot, including setup and media spend. Agree who will finish and pay for episodes still in production when the contract ends.

Content Allies, which I founded, lists strategy, production, guest research and outreach among its B2B podcast services (opens in a new tab), as checked in September 2026. It also offers help recruiting a host. Its scope is customized to the client's goals and budget; the full services list is not included by default. Use your proposed guest criteria and production plan to establish the scope you need.

Measure what happens to the relationships

I'd review the guest program and the audience separately. A relevant executive appearing on the show, a listener requesting a meeting and an existing opportunity moving forward are different events. Your report should preserve those differences.

I described the budget risk in a May 15, 2025 interview (opens in a new tab): Content Allies' enterprise clients cut budgets for programs like these quickly during recession scares. I saw many of their programs as distant from quantifiable business value, and compliance could prevent even collecting an email address. That experience is why I'd agree before launch what the team can measure and what evidence would justify continuing.

Before outreach begins, record which target accounts already have an active relationship or opportunity. After each interview, update what happened and the agreed next step. The record should show where the podcast entered the relationship, without treating every subsequent deal as revenue it caused.

QuestionEvidence to recordHow I'd use it
Are the intended guests participating?Invitations, replies and completed interviews, grouped by account and roleCheck the premise and invitation before spending more on production
Do relationships continue?Agreed follow-up conversations, introductions and collaborationsUnderstand whether the interview created an ongoing connection
Is there a commercial development?New opportunities, existing opportunities and the relevant relationship historyShow the podcast's documented role without assigning it all the credit
Is the content reaching the intended audience?Distribution activity, available audience data and direct feedbackAssess reach separately from guest participation
Can the team sustain the program?Total cost, staff time, delays and completed episodesDecide whether to continue at the same scope, change the process or stop
A proposed review for an account-based podcast pilot.

Keep paid and organic distribution visible in the audience report. An increase after an advertising campaign answers a different question from an increase driven by guests sharing their episodes. Ask what your reporting can actually establish before treating a download as a person, an account or a sales lead.

I explained in March 2021 that business from listeners had been slow to arrive on my own show and emphasized that hosts could begin building relationships with their first interviews. That difference between guest relationships and audience results is why I'd evaluate the pilot in stages.

Before launch, agree how many target-account interviews the budget will support, when those episodes should be published, and how long the team will allow for follow-up before its first review. Use the producer's schedule and the relationship owner's availability to set the review date. At that review, judge participation and continuing contact. Assess audience development and commercial outcomes as evidence accumulates, allowing for your sales cycle.

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Pilot Review Stages & Horizon Pre-Launch: Log starting status and active pipeline for target accounts Stage 1: Production: Assess invitation replies, booking rates, and unit costs Stage 2: Post-Publish: Track follow-up chats, referrals, and guest clips shared Stage 3: Sales Horizon: Audit pipeline opportunities allowing for full sales cycle

Write the pilot brief before commissioning the show

I'd put the following on a single page and have marketing, sales and the host agree to it. Their answers should explain why the program deserves resources and what would make them change course.

  • Accounts: Which accounts and roles are worth building relationships with?
  • Subject: What would those people want to discuss, and why would others listen?
  • Owners: Who will host, produce and own the guest relationships?
  • Budget: What will the pilot cost, including internal time and distribution?
  • Evidence: Which outcomes will be recorded, and what is the starting position for each account?
  • Review: How many interviews will the pilot fund, when will the team review them, and what would justify continuing, changing or stopping?

The question I'd settle first is simple: which buyers could you offer a worthwhile conversation, and what would you want to learn from them?

Sources

Jake's record

  • Grow your agency through podcast networking, January 11, 2017; checked against the January 30, 2017 Internet Archive capture
  • Working Without Pants: why launch a B2B podcast, March 2, 2021, 02:54–05:47
  • Working Without Pants: podcast strategy, March 16, 2021, 01:55–05:40
  • How I take new businesses to market, November 2023
  • Productize podcast interview, May 15, 2025, 18:30–20:04

Company services

  • Content Allies services, checked September 27, 2026

Sources checked September 27, 2026

Jake Jorgovan

Jake works with enterprise leaders on marketing strategy and executive talent. He co-founded Alpha Apex Group, founded Content Allies, owns Listen Network and is a partner in Fieldtrip, a group of marketing agencies. He founded Lead Cookie and later sold it.

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